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Krug

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Sada znam da je tajna i smisao u krugu.
Sve je krug. Sve ...
I zato se ne brinite, ako ste propustili priliku - doci ce opet.

Iskreno se nadam da si u pravu. smešak

aha...
i onda na taj krug dodas jos jedan iznad, ispod ili pored njega. pa dodas vezu izmedju krugova i dobijes spiralni oblik.
nanizane nebrojene sadasnje trenutke svih proslih i buducih i ovog postojanja. i zavrtis se u krug.

Ili ti se zavrti u glavi. Mr. Green

Niko nije savrsen i zato se ljudima daje druga prilika da se vrate na isto mjesto gdje su pogrijesili da bi nesto naucili. Koliko god puta da je potrebno, vracat cemo se na to gdje grijesimo. Ne sjecamo se proslih zivota, ali to ne dokazuje da nismo zivjeli prije u nekom drugom obliku. Ne sjecamo se ni svog vlastitog rodjenja u ovom zivotu, ali ga ipak zivimo.
Zemlja, Sunce, Mjesec, pocetak i kraj, priroda i covjek u centru tog kruga - je krug. smešak


http://www.mycity.rs/Knjizevnost/Patient-of-Love.html#620689
Black Orchid ::.. p.s. samo se u Krugovima i kreccemo... eventualno pravimo osmice Mr. Green ..

A Paulo Coelho reche:
"Ratnik svetlosti zna da se izvesni trenuci ponavljaju. Chesto se suochava s istim problemima i okolnostima s kojima se ranije vec susretao; tada ga obuzima malodushnost, jer misli da je nesposoban da napreduje u zhivotu, buduci da se teshki trenuci vraccaju.
- Kroz to sam vec proshao - vajka se on svome srcu.
- Istina, vec si proshao - odgovara srce - ali jos nisi prevazishao.

Ratnik tada uvidja da ponovljena iskustva imaju jedan jedini cilj: da ga nauche onome shto nije hteo da nauchi."


.. & I h8 that Mr. Green - zaboli glava od silnog udaranja u zid Laughing
pa tako to "i zato ne brinite - docci ce opet" zvuchi kao ona kineska kletva "dabogda zhiveo u zanimljivom vremenu" Wink Mr. Green a stalno vraccanje na "mesto zlochina" i vrtenje u krug + ev. proshli zhivoti asocira na karmu (karma komu Mr. Green), itd., elem, help! let me out! i wanna break these chains! i mean, circle(s)! Mr. Green smešak


"Like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel ...
"


aaand, of course Wink , just a bit different:

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The idea of eternal return is a mysterious one, and Nietzsche has often perplexed other philosophers with it: to think that everything recurs as we once experienced it, and that the recurrence itself recurs ad infinitum! What does this mad myth signify?

Putting it negatively, the myth of eternal return states that a life which disappears once and for all, which does not return, is like a shadow, without weight, dead in advance, and whether it was horrible, beautiful, sublime, its horror, sublimity, and beauty mean nothing. We need take no more note of it than of a war between two African kingdoms in the 14th century, a war that altered nothing in the destiny of the world, even if a hundred thousand blacks perished in excruciating torment.

Will the war between two African kingdoms in the 14th century itself be altered if it recurs again and again, in eternal return?

It will: it will become a solid mass, permanently protuberant, its inanity irreparable.

If the French Revolution were to recur eternally, French historians would be less proud of Robespierre. But because they deal with something that will not return, the bloody years of the Revolution have turned into mere words, theories, and discussions, have become lighter than feathers, frightening no one. There is an infinite difference between a Robespierre who occurs only once in history and a Robespierre who eternally returns, chopping off French heads.

Let us therefore agree that the idea of eternal return implies a perspective from which things appear other than as we know them: they appear without the mitigating circumstance of their transitory nature. This mitigating circumstance prevents us from coming to a verdict. For how we can condemn something that is ephemeral, in transit? In the sunset of dissolution, everything is illuminated by the aura of nostalgia, even the guillotine.

Not long ago, I caught myself experiencing a most incredible sensation. Leafing through a book on Hitler, I was touched by some of his portraits: they reminded me of my childhood. I grew up during the war; several members of my family perished in Hitler’s concentration camps; but what were their deaths compared with the memories of a lost period in my life, a period that would never return?

This reconciliation with Hitler reveals the profound moral perversity of a world that rests essentially on the non-existence of return, for in this world everything is pardoned in advance and therefore everything cynically permitted.

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If every second of our lives recurs an infinite number of times, we are nailed to eternity as Jesus Christ was nailed to the cross. It is a terrifying prospect. In the world of eternal return the weight of unbearable responsibility lies heavy on every move we make. That is why Nietzsche called the idea of eternal return the heaviest of burden (das schwerste Gewicht).

If eternal return is the heaviest of burdens, then our lives can stand out against it in all their splendid lightness.

But is heaviness truly deplorable and lightness splendid?

The heaviest of burdens crushes us, we sink beneath it, it pins us to the ground. But in the love poetry of every age, the woman longs to be weighed down by the man’s body. The heaviest of burdens is therefore simultaneously an image of life’s most intense fulfillment. The heavier the burden, the closer our lives come to the earth, the more real and truthful they become.

Conversely, the absolute absence of a burden causes man to be lighter than air, to soar into the heights, take leave of the earth and his earthly being, and become only half real, his movements as free as they are insignificant.

What then shall we choose? Weight or lightness?

Parmenides posed this very question in the 6th century before Christ. He saw the world divided into pairs of opposites: light / darkness, fineness / coarseness, warmth / cold, being / non-being. One half of the opposition he called positive (light, fineness, warmth, being), the other negative. We might find this division into positive and negative poles childishly simple except for one difficulty: which one is positive, weight or lightness?

Parmenides responded: lightness is positive, weight negative.

Was he correct or not? That is the question. The only certainty is: the lightness / weight opposition is the most mysterious, most ambiguous of all."

(Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being")



p.s.
"... A sva ta chudesna stanja
i obnavljanja mene
i nisu drugo do vrtlog
jednolik,
uporan,
dug.

Znash shta su prorochanstva?
Kalupi ranijih zbivanja
i zadihanost istog
shto vija sebe ukrug. ..."
(antic)


Eto, mislim da sam ja sada na pocetku kruga (ili kraja koji postaje pocetak).
Sve sto je bilo je opet. Very Happy
Kad bi mogli da "Get ahead by looking back" ali samo gledanjem, ne ponovnim bivanjem ... tek da glava manje boli. smešak

"...a ja crtam svoje Krugove i prashtam stare Dugove..."
Balashevic'

sta je sa osmicama ?, aj sad..

osmica = dva spojena kruga. ovo o cemu ovde pricamo je to isto = krug ili osmica kao beskonacnost. neki ga opisuju ovako, neki onako. svaki od krugova ili ravni se sastoje u stvari od jedne beskonacnosti. s jedne na drugu, na trecu, do u beskonacnost, u krug Smile

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