Kako da ustanovim u cemu je problem sa racunarom?

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5x sam radio reinstalaciju windowsa, ali uzalud, nije u tome problem.
Slika se zamrzne, ili se odmah pojavi plavi ekran s onim ciframa. Nekad, pre nego se to desi, zacuje se na kratko neki zvuk u kucisti, kao da nesot zakrci. Nekad se se umesto ciste zamrznute slike, kad cujem onaj zvuk u kucisti, slika po malo razmaze.
Testirao sam preko H-boot-a, HDD i on je ok, nema nijednu gresku.
Isto i RAM memorije sam testirao i one su ok. Jedna je Patriot (4gb) druga je Kingston (2gb).
Koliko se secam, kad sam ubacio ovu Patriot pre nedelju dana, poceo je komp da me zeza, kao da se nesto poremetilo. Pa sam pomisljao da nije problem jer se razlikuju memorije. Ispostavilo se da nije, jer posebno probam komp i sa jednom i sa drugom i opet mi se pojavi plavi ekran ili se zamrzne.
Maticna ploca je G41-P28M,
Procesor je E6600,
Graficka integrisana.
Niceg vise nema.
Ja sad sumnjam na maticnu plocu, ali nisam siguran.
Da li moze problem da pravi i mrezni stepen, ako dolazi do javljanja plavog ekrana ili je ipak do maticne ploce, ili procesora?
Razmisljam da probam da kupim neku drugu maticnu plocu, jer mi je ova nekako nikakva.
Koju biste mi bolju maticnu plocu preporucili uz ovaj procesor, ili neku drugu kombinaciju maticne i procesora?
Graficku ne bih kupovao, jer ne igram ja igrice.

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Jesi probao prvo da ocistis kuciste od prasine? Ja kad sam kupovao jos jedan modul rama, u servisu mi je receno da 2 modula mogu doci u konflikt ukoliko su od 2 razlicita prozivodjaca.

Postavi izvestaj programa WhoCrashed.

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Cistio sam kuciste, a ram memorije sam stavljao posebno, isprobavao svaku samu, ali opet isto.
Evo nekog rezultata iz programa koji si mi rekao da preuzmem:

windows version: Windows 7 , 6.1, build: 7600
windows dir: C:\Windows
Hardware: MS-7592, MSI, G41M-P28 (MS-7592)
CPU: GenuineIntel Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E6600 @ 3.06GHz Intel586, level: 6
2 logical processors, active mask: 3
RAM: 6405939200 total
VM: 2147352576, free: 1994645504




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Crash Dump Analysis
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Crash dump directory: C:\Windows\Minidump

Crash dumps are enabled on your computer.

On Mon 11/1/2010 2:31:11 AM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\110110-16785-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x71F00)
Bugcheck code: 0x1E (0xFFFFFFFFC0000005, 0x0, 0x8, 0x0)
Error: KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that a kernel-mode program generated an exception which the error handler did not catch.
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.



On Mon 11/1/2010 2:31:11 AM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\memory.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntkrnlmp.exe (nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x0)
Bugcheck code: 0x1E (0xFFFFFFFFC0000005, 0x0, 0x8, 0x0)
Error: KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
Bug check description: This indicates that a kernel-mode program generated an exception which the error handler did not catch.
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.



On Mon 11/1/2010 1:16:55 AM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\110110-15194-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x71F00)
Bugcheck code: 0xC5 (0x8, 0x2, 0x0, 0xFFFFF800029A50BF)
Error: DRIVER_CORRUPTED_EXPOOL
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that the system attempted to access invalid memory at a process IRQL that was too high.
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem. This might be a case of memory corruption. More often memory corruption happens because of software errors in buggy drivers, not because of faulty RAM modules.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.



On Mon 11/1/2010 12:10:54 AM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\110110-14742-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x71F00)
Bugcheck code: 0x101 (0x61, 0x0, 0xFFFFF880009EA180, 0x1)
Error: CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that an expected clock interrupt on a secondary processor, in a multi-processor system, was not received within the allocated interval.
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem. This problem might be caused by a thermal issue.
The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.




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Conclusion
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4 crash dumps have been found and analyzed. No offending third party drivers have been found. Consider using WhoCrashed Professional which offers more detailed analysis using symbol resolution. Also configuring your system to produce a full memory dump may help you.


Read the topic general suggestions for troubleshooting system crashes for more information.

Note that it's not always possible to state with certainty whether a reported driver is actually responsible for crashing your system or that the root cause is in another module. Nonetheless it's suggested you look for updates for the products that these drivers belong to and regularly visit Windows update or enable automatic updates for Windows. In case a piece of malfunctioning hardware is causing trouble, a search with Google on the bug check errors together with the model name and brand of your computer may help you investigate this further.

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Ako radiš memory test sa wina može da slaže da je sve u redu
nego skini memory test iso i nareži na cd ako nemaš neku od live linux distribucija

preporučio bi ti da skineš mhdd da proveriš hdd sa njim

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Miroljube,
Memorije sem testirao preko Hiren's boot disca. I po tom testu ispada da su ok.
Nasao sam u cemu je problem, tacnije, PATRIOT memorija ne funkcionise kako treba na ovoj ploci.
Kad nju stavim pocinje da koci.
Nisam sumnjao u tu memoriju, jer sam pre instalacije windowsa, isprobavao svaku od memorija samu na ploci, i kingston i patriot, pri cemu je windows blokirao i sa jednom i sa drugom, pa sam mislio da nije do memorije.
Juce, nakon sto sam vise puta radio reinstalaciju windowsa, ajde reko da probam samo sa ovom Kingston i evo, sve do sada radi kako treba. Samo sto mi je ta memorija mala od 2Gb. Ovu Patriot od 4gb sam kupio kako bih pojacao, ali izgleda da mi je napravila veliku muku. Nikad vise Patriot, samo Kingston

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Napisano: 20 Jun 2014 9:40

sporex ::Nikad vise Patriot, samo Kingston

Kupovao si RAM, a nisi proverio listu podrzanih modula na sajtu proizvodjaca maticne ploce.

Dopuna: 20 Jun 2014 9:45

http://www.msi.com/file/test_report/TR10_2195.pdf

Ovo su moduli za tvoju MB, podrzani i provereni od MSI.

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higuy, hvala ti na odgovori i na listi podrzanih memorija.
Se je ispalo na brzaka, jer u mom gradu nisam uspeo da nadjem Kingston od 4gb.
Ili nemaju, ili mi kazu da ce dobiti ovih dana, a ja prosto nisam mogao da cekam i eto, napravio sam problem.
Zezanje mi je sad sto ne znam da li ce da mi vrate, a da mi daju Kingston ako imaju, jer sam izgubio racun. Kupljena je pre mozda 2 nedelje.
Gledajuci ovu listu, znaci li ovo da MB ne podrrzava memorije od 1333?
Ova kingston od 4GB sto je na listi pri dnu, da li mora bas da bude taj broj?

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Napisao sam, proverenih i podrzanih od strane maticne ploce. To ne znaci da neki neprovereni iz te klase nece raditi, naprotiv. Ja takve stvari dajem servisu da odradi, oni ce imati probleme i resavati, ne ja.

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RAM specifikacija za tvoju plocu:

Citat:Main Memory

• Supports two unbuffered DIMM of 1.5 Volt DDR3 800/1066/1333* (OC) DRAM, 8GB Max


Podrzava 1333Mhz, ali kad se overklokuje. Sto se tice brzina ram memorije, na primer ako je taj Kingston od 2GB brzine 800Mhz, a ti kupis drugu ram memoriju koja radi na 1066Mhz, obe ce raditi na 800Mhz, pod uslovom da su medjusobno kompatibilne.