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Poslao: 27 Jun 2007 13:47
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a što ovako bezveze naslov bloga? (da se ja pitam, zabranio bih naslove koji nisu koliko-toliko jasni)
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Poslao: 27 Jun 2007 14:12
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@Mladene, i ludilo je fleksibilan pojam.
@Tamtitam, kako ti znas da sam ja bila na godisnjem?
(joj suti zeno, samo kad se sjetim kakav je bio. takav se samo jednom pravi. kako je dobar. istog momenta me glava zaboli zato sto ga nisam mogla naci. a trazicu ja njega jos, ko zna - mozda mi jeste sudjen.)
A ja opet uzimam nekoliko dana off za koji dan.
Sta cu kad sam veliki radnik.
@ZoNi, pa kako bezveze? Samo zato sto ti nesto ne razumijes, to nikako ne znaci da je nemoguce. Mind goes BLANK, ZoNi ... blank. A uostalom kako bi ti zavirio ovdje da je naslov 'Ella je polupala loncice'.
Ovako moras da otvoris da vidis i da ostavis svoj kometar jer mi znamo kako i koliko su rjeciti blogovi koji imaju znakove umjesto rijeci, za naslov.
P.S. a za samo znacenje - (naziva bloga) moze da se tumaci na par raznih nacina. Moze da bude - (minus, znas to ti je matemtaticka radnja u kojoj se oduzima). moze da bude - (crtica, koja odvaja ili veze dvije misli u recenici), a moze da bude - (nista, samo jedna crtica koja oznacava umnu prazninu u datom trenutku i koja je eto bila prvi izbor za naziv ovog bloga).
Sad ne mogu da se sjetim kao je izgledao kostim, da ga nacrtam pa da ga napravim. To je bio jedan od onih neobicno obicnih kostima koji je dvodjelan a u stvari je jednodjelan. I kojemu fali jedna bretela na jednom ramenu i otkriva citavu jednu stranu kuka i ledja, a sa druge strane je povezan trakicama. Evo, opet glava pocinje da me boli.
A nisam ga dobro opisala.
Uopste nije takav ... ma jeste. Nije. Mozda.
yes.
maybe.
not really.
no. it's not.
al' bi ga prepoznala cim bi ga vidjela, kao sto sam prvi put. to je onaj sto sam ga sanjala.
I'll give you one deer in the headlights look ...
Bye-bye.
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Poslao: 27 Jun 2007 16:19
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Ella ::I da Mladene, sto me zbuni sa ovom slikom?
Nije znanje svijest. A truth and belief mogu biti i druge boje.
Ćut', ne diraj mi ljubičastu (Beliefs) boju! Ta mi je omiljena...
A u neku ruku (pozamašnu!), svest jeste ono što znamo; i znanje jeste ono čega smo svesni.
Tu se sad nadovezuje ona poznata iz Psihologije - ''Znamo da znamo'', premisa koja nas drastično razlikuje od životinja...
I da, znaš još zašto? Zato što životinje uglavnom koriste svoj instinkt i svoje nagone (tj. nesvesno). Samo neki delfini, slonovi i čovekoliki majmuni (osim gorile) imaju razvijeniji dokaz o svesti (npr. mogu se prepoznati u ogledalu i znati da su to oni); baš zato što je njima majušan delić sante leda tik iznad vode. A kod nas je to poveći deo..!
Zato u slučaju Čoveka ne mogu da odvojim spoznato od svesnog...
(čovek često reaguje organski, tj. nesvesno, pre nego što shvati šta mu se dešava - znojenje, drhtavica, smotanost, smeškanje kod zaljubljivanja na primer)
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Poslao: 28 Jun 2007 01:46
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@ Ella :
Joooj, zar me je toliko teško razumeti..? Uglavnom ponoviš, svojim rečima, ono što sam već napomenuo u nekom od prošlih komentara... a posle ispadne da nisam u pravu..!?
Ove godine sam na faksu imao Med. Psihologiju, te sam se dosad uglavnom oslanjao na tu frojdovku (dinamičku) teoriju ličnosti... i dodavao svoje primere.
A sad sam ti prepisao svoje najvažnije beleške sa predavanja na engleskom jeziku (s obzirom da odlično razumeš taj jezik, nije bilo potrebno još i da prevodim, srećom) :
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= Psychoanalytic (Dynamic) Theory of Personality Structure =
* The theory was suggested by Sigmund Freud; it has direct appliance in psychiatry & psychopathology (depressions & neurosae are the most common cases);
* First, we must relate to the unbreakable fact that an individual is a BioPsychoSocial being!
* The theory has 3 interconnected, interdependent layers:
=> ID (biological) : unconscious feat (comprised of drives and emotions);
it's very strong, reflects challenges that are to be satisfied here & now;
=> SUPER EGO (psychological) : it's antagonistic to ID;
it's early developed, reflects ethic & moral principles (higher categories);
unlike zabranjenos, children don't accept these principles as a possible threat;
breakage of those principles induces unpleasant feelings on a S. Ego level (painful pangs of conscience = griža savesti);
example: proportion of 9:1 (in favor of mentally healthy, normal people and opposed to mentally ill -> it shows that normal people are more prone to the autodestructive conflicts and behavior, such as suicide & homicide; all that because of S. Ego disorders)
zato je itekako važno koliko i šta znaš; znati više = najebati manje (od samog sebe)
=> EGO (social feat) : a bridge between Id & S. Ego;
it tries, by senses, thoughts and through study of the environment, to find a compromise which is morally acceptible, predictable;
DISORDERS:
* hypertrophy of Id : behavior disturbance; psychopats, alcoholics, narcs; may even induce developement of psychoses...
* hypertrophy of Super Ego : depression; homicide, suicide, depressive (acute) phase of an illness...
= Drives (Strives) =
There are 2 types of personality drives : Vital (subdivided into defensive & self-maintenance drives [food & fluid intake]) & Reproductive (sexual)
* Vital, self-maintenance drives : are the inherited pattern of behavior; they're precise & are specifically defined in sequence (their sequence cannot be agitated; they are genome coded); they are unconsciously activated in biological challenge.
* Vital defensive drives : are activated in 2 ways => 'fight or flight' (coping/escape)
* Reproductive drives : also inherited; are somatically able => activate behavioral patterns
= Mechanisms of Personality Defense =
- defense from external danger
- defense from internal danger (drives have the potential to be that internal danger; because drives, for example, encourage raping)
* First process => estimation (whether the wish is in compliance with the possibility of its realization -> rational confrontation; to harmonize the internal encouragements with possibilities)
* There are 3 negative (pathogenic) mechanisms (which can be misused if they start to represent the style of living):
= REPRESSION (immature, incompetent/infantile individuals are prone to repression of troubles; they keep on going in defiance of those problems, and the problems are existent; they're not solved)
it's a dangerous mechanism => may become an individual characteristic; repressions pass into the subconscience (lower level) and are lost out of sight, because the problems are still there and have a strong bioenergetical potential => they supress the centers of biovegetative system; that, in return, causes dysfunction by having consequently induced psychosomatic disease :
- sympathetic activity (vascular diseases, apoplexy [stroke], myocardial infarction)
- parasympathetic system activity (GI tract malfunctions -> ulcers)
- genital system may be affected (erectile dysfunction in men [due to inability of Sy. & ParaSy. harmonization], menstrual dysfunctions in women)
= NEGATION (misinterpretation of problems or reducement in their importance; inability to notice them - a form of very infantile behavior)
it's frequent among health-department workers; can be used and is not to be taken as a style of behavior;
= PROJECTION (one's own problems or lacks/defects are explained as faults of others)
this mechanism disturbs relations among people, causes inadequacy for teamwork; is a step toward -> paranoia...
* The 2 positive mechanisms are CONFRONTATION & RATIONALIZATION (the latter is highly dependant on knowledge); as positive mechanisms, they are not to be further explained today...
Mada, misli da su jasna ova dva poslednja mehanizma - konfrontacija je suačavanje sa samim problemom i nalaženje ili jednakog ili samo po tebe povoljnog rešenja (ne predati se neživim/iracionalnim stvarima, pojavama);
racionalizacija je sličan, ali proces kod kojeg je potrebno malo i umešnosti (mada i podsvesno ga možemo upotrebiti, a da to ne znamo => primer: dok smo bili bolesni i u krevetu nekoliko dana, pročitali smo dobru knjigu; ili - dok me je prelom noge sprečio da zaradjujem novac na poslu, ja sam mnogo bolje kod kuće savladao engleski jezik ili korišćenje kompjutera i td...)
P.S. Možda sad shvatiš barem pravac u kojem te navodim kad objašnjavam zašto je znanje sposobno da dokuči/kontroliše podsvest. Ne u celini, naravno - ali donekle naravno da jeste!
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