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Poslao: 30 Jan 2005 15:00
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Zao mi je bratac, ali tako mu dodje nekako =(
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Poslao: 30 Jan 2005 15:16
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Poslao: 30 Jan 2005 15:21
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malawi ::KAV nema heuristiku!? --> -->
Mozda nema najbolju., ali znas kako... KAV ti je ko MERCEDES..., naj kompletniji..., najlepsa i najsigurnija voznja!
Ali ja ipak vise volim rols rojs (NOD32)
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Poslao: 30 Jan 2005 16:37
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Peca ::KAV distributer ::otkud znas da nije lazna uzbuna, kojoj je NOD, ponavljam, veoma sklon?
pa, i KAV je sklon laznim uzbunima, od kada ja znam za njega
Svaki AV je sklon ponekoj laznoj uzbuni - za NOD sam ipak rekao da je "veoma sklon" i tu je razlika.
Takodje, nikad nisam rekao da NOD ne nalazi viruse - vec da ih nalazi u nedovoljnom procentu za zakljucak da je u pitanju revolucionarni proizvod kako se tvrdi iz njihovog marketing staba
Pouzdanost nekog AV-a zavisi od niza faktora: detekcije, brzine, pouzdanosti, balansiranosti odnosa laznih i pravih uzbuna, tehnicke podrske, brzine odziva kod epidemije, brzine dopuna baza...masa faktora.
E sad, ako ne gresim - ti "ganjas" KAV. Znaci, ipak si dosao do zakljucka da i pored sitnih neprijatnosti ti u celini pruza vecu zastitu od ostalih
Opet ponavljam, ne 100% jer je nemoguca - ali vecu od drugih
@c0mrade
Mozes da tvrdis i da je NOD ekvivalent Ferariju, ali ako treba da vozis po njivi - uzeces traktor
Zelim ti dosta dobrih puteva na voznji "kroz" Internet - jedino tako ces lepo proci sa svojim Ferarijem
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Poslao: 30 Jan 2005 17:07
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@KAV distributer
mozda biste mogli da obavestite KL da izbace Weird-ov potpis iz detekcije, jer covek pravi i korisne usluzne programe...
i da mene vise ne optuzuju da distribuiram viruse
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Poslao: 30 Jan 2005 17:17
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Lepo je to =)
Nod32 - ograda =))
KAV - izvolte udjite, samo moram da pozovem centralu da pitam da niste mozda na nekoj poternici, a dotle sumnjivo lice... =)))
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Poslao: 30 Jan 2005 18:55
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1. Pa cek jel si ti programer,koder?
2. ili si samo Distributer KAV i nista vise?
Negativan odgovr na prvo pitanje ti ne daje pravo da raspravljas o heuristici =))) i o virusima
A pozitivan odgvor na 2 je sasvim razumljiv, jer kao Distributer KAV moras da ga hvalis...
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Poslao: 30 Jan 2005 19:48
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c0mrade ::1. Pa cek jel si ti programer,koder?
2. ili si samo Distributer KAV i nista vise?
Negativan odgovr na prvo pitanje ti ne daje pravo da raspravljas o heuristici =))) i o virusima
A pozitivan odgvor na 2 je sasvim razumljiv, jer kao Distributer KAV moras da ga hvalis...
Sve mi se nesto cini da ostajes bez argumenata, a nije mi bas ni jasno sta ti daje za pravo da budes autoritet koji sudi o necijoj kompetenciji.
Ne znam sta mozes da uradis ako na 1. odgovorim sa "da"?
Opet, oko pitanja br. 2 smo ovde u forumu dosta pricali - mogao sam da uzmem bilo koji nick, zar ne? Da li bi mi to dalo vecu tezinu?
Evo, ne moram vise da hvalim KAV da te to ne zbunjuje - mogu da ti dam misljenje nekih ljudi kojima je posao testiranje antivirusa....na ovom testu nije bilo KAV-a pa ne moras oko toga da se uznemirujes - fokusiracemo se samo na ono o cemu smo do sada pricali.
1. lazne uzbune NOD-a:
AV-Test also scanned 20,000 clean files to determine whether the programs would mistakenly identify any as infected. PC-cillin excelled, with no false positives; at the other end of the scale, Eset's NOD32 misidentified 31 clean files. Even a small number of false positives can be a headache, as they may cause innocent and necessary files to be quarantined or even deleted.
2. superiorna NOD heuristika:
Antivirus scanners rely primarily on exact matches to identify malware, but they can sometimes catch infectors not included in their databases by using heuristics. Strictly speaking, heuristics refers to the ability to identify new malware based on telltale characteristics--for example, the presence of code that exploits a known vulnerability. In practice, however, heuristics also refers to the use of "fuzzy" pattern matching to identify a new variant of a known virus, using the generic definition of a virus such as Netsky.gen, for instance, to nab a particular brand-new variant such as Netsky.R.
AV-Test gauged heuristics by scanning files containing the newest malware with versions of each program that had last been updated three months prior. McAfee and AVG performed best, catching 70.1 percent and 65.6 percent, respectively, of infected files; NOD32 did worst, at 41.4 percent.
For each antivirus program, AV-Test used the highest possible settings to scan an infected hard drive, though NOD32 was a special case. Beyond the level of heuristics available for disk scans, NOD32 has a higher level called Advanced Heuristics for scanning incoming e-mail and Web traffic (the main routes of infection). AV-Test gauged NOD32's Advanced Heuristics using an undocumented command-line instruction (nod32.exe /AH) to turn the feature on for a disk scan. With its Advanced Heuristics enabled, NOD32's detection rate jumped to 53.5 percent.
3. NOD-ova upotrebljivost
Though McAfee's suite was the most troublesome, it was not alone in having glitches. No program aced the infection-removal test, in which AV-Test ran each scanner on systems infected with the CTX virus, the Optix backdoor Trojan horse, and the MyDoom.A worm. PC-cillin handled cleanup best, fully removing two infections and never harming the system. McAfee, NOD32, and Panda left the system unusable after attempting (and failing) to remove the CTX virus.
4. NOD-ova brzina (da ne kazes da samo grdim)
Sluggishness was the biggest drawback to Norton's suite. In informal tests, system startups and shutdowns took about twice as long with Norton installed as with PC-cillin or NOD32, which had the least-discernible performance impact. Norton was the slowest at running a full disk scan, too, requiring about 12 minutes on a Windows XP Pro system equipped with an 800-MHz Pentium III processor, 256MB of RAM, and a 5400-rpm hard drive with 575MB of data. NOD32 was the fastest program, at only 52 seconds. (Norton had better detection rates than NOD32, however.) PC-cillin was the next fastest at just over 2.5 minutes.
Eto, nekako se potrefilo da neko ko nije KAV distributer i ko nikako nema veze sa prodajom KAV-a ima slicne rezultate kada je NOD u pitanju.
I nemoj sada da me maltretiras da ti po netu nalazim NOD test rezultate, jer je svuda slicno
Razlog je jednostavan: Takav je kakav je.
I da se razumemo, necu vise nista lose o NOD-u da pricam - povukao si me za jezik kada si napao KAV glorifikujuci NOD.
Nemam nista protiv da ga koristis u sreci i veselju
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