Microsoft SUSEov sponzor?

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Moze li me neko uputiti u pricu sta se ovde dogadja?

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To je u stvari suse enterprajz
Novel ima sporazum sa ms o interoperability ,
koliko mi je poznato nešto vezi dokumenata , ili u vezi umrežavanja
(ili sa pristupom nekim ms enterprajz servisima one baze itd. ali nisam do detalja upoznat)

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Agreement with Microsoft


On 2 November 2006, Novell and Microsoft announced a joint patent agreement to cover their respective products.[5][6] They also promised to work more closely together, in order to improve their software’s ability to work with other software, setting up a joint research facility to do this. Leaders from both companies purportedly hope this will lead to better compatibility between Microsoft Office and OpenOffice.org and better virtualization techniques.

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said of the deal, “This set of agreements will really help bridge the divide between open-source and proprietary source software.”[7]

The deal involves upfront payment of $348 million from Microsoft to Novell for patent cooperation and SLES subscription. Novell will pay around $40 million to Microsoft over 5 years.[8]

One of the first results of this partnership was that Novell adapted the OpenXML/ODF Translator for use in OpenOffice.org.[9]

Initial reaction from members of the FOSS community over the patent protection was mostly critical, with expressions of concern that Novell had “sold out” and of doubt that the GPL would allow distribution of code, including the Linux kernel, under this exclusive agreement.[10][11][12]

In a letter to the FOSS development community on November 9, Bradley M. Kuhn, CTO of the Software Freedom Law Center described the agreement as “worse than useless.”[13] In a separate development the chairman of the SFLC, Eben Moglen, reported that Novell had offered cooperation with the SFLC to permit a confidential audit to determine the compliance of the agreement with the GPL (version 2).[14] Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation, said in November that changes coming with the version 3 of the GPL will preclude such deals.[15] When the final revision of the third version of the GPL license was decided, the deal between Microsoft and Novell was grandfathered in. A new clause will let companies like Novell distribute GPLv3 software even if they have made such patent partnerships in the past, as long as the partnership deal was made before March 28, 2007 (GPLv3 Section 11 paragraph 7 [16]).

On November 12, the Samba team expressed strong disapproval of Novell’s announcements on November 2 and asked Novell to reconsider.[17] The Samba team includes an employee of Novell, Jeremy Allison, who confirmed in a comment on Slashdot that the statement was agreed on by all members of the team,[18] and later quit his job at Novell in protest.[19]

In early February 2007, Reuters reported that the Free Software Foundation had announced that it was reviewing Novell’s right to sell Linux versions, and even may ban Novell from selling Linux, because of an agreement.[20] However Eben Moglen later said that he was quoted out of context.[21] He was explaining that GPL version 3 will be designed to block similar deals in the future. Currently, Novell is not violating the GPL version 2 or 3, under which most of the software in a Linux distribution is licensed.[22] The eventual license transition for some software packages from GPLv2 to v3 appears to have no affect on the Microsoft-Novell partnership.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novell

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Mmmmm,meni ovde sve nelogicno. Zasto bi microsoft hteo da poboljsa kompatibilnost sa openoffice kad m$ office ima 99,999999% trzista? Zasto bi tek placao za taj ugovor 348 miliona $ ?

Moracu se dublje uputim u problematiku ovoga

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Koliko sam ja skapirao, M$ je utripovao da Linux sam po sebi krsi neke njihove softverske patente, pa su resili da tuze velike Linux firme. Fora je bila, platite nam za patente ili cemo vas tuziti. A zbog kojih patenata ce ih (M$) tuziti, nije hteo da kaze. Na ovu foru su mislim pali samo Novell i Xandros. Kod Novell-a je to ispalo kao dogovor o saranji.
Neka me neko upuceniji ispravi ako sam nesto pogresno rekao.

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Citat:The deal involves upfront payment of $348 million from Microsoft to Novell for patent cooperation and SLES subscription. Novell will pay around $40 million to Microsoft over 5 years.[8]

Ali zasto bi oni toliko para "placali" novelu umesto tuzbe?

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Postoji i onaj momenat da ms ima interesa da
windows serveri funkcionišu kao virtualne mašine gde je host linuksi
Ili je to nešto drugo Opet se suse koristi i za servere

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igorpan ::Mmmmm,meni ovde sve nelogicno. Zasto bi microsoft hteo da poboljsa kompatibilnost sa openoffice kad m$ office ima 99,999999% trzista? Zasto bi tek placao za taj ugovor 348 miliona $ ?

Moracu se dublje uputim u problematiku ovoga Nece biti bas tako... Microsoft drzi tek 60-70% trzista sa office paketom (negde sam video taj procenat, ubij me sada, ne mogu da nadjem link...)
Open document format od open officea je postao standard, i microsoft je prakticno prinudjen da ga koristi, pa office 2007 od verzije sp2 i office 2010 imaju opciju ucitavanja i snimanja u open document formatu:

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pixxel ::igorpan ::Mmmmm,meni ovde sve nelogicno. Zasto bi microsoft hteo da poboljsa kompatibilnost sa openoffice kad m$ office ima 99,999999% trzista? Zasto bi tek placao za taj ugovor 348 miliona $ ?

Moracu se dublje uputim u problematiku ovoga Nece biti bas tako... Microsoft drzi tek 60-70% trzista sa office paketom (negde sam video taj procenat, ubij me sada, ne mogu da nadjem link...)
Open document format od open officea je postao standard, i microsoft je prakticno prinudjen da ga koristi, pa office 2007 od verzije sp2 i office 2010 imaju opciju ucitavanja i snimanja u open document formatu:



Tek 60-70%
To je ono jer smo navikli da svaka procentaza koja je sa microsoftom u istoj recenici bude preko 90% ?

Salim se naravno,nisam imao ideju da je m$ office toliko malo zastupljen. Mislim,ocekivao sam da je zastupljen skoro koliko i win, koji procenat ispod mozda.

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pa tek windows nije toliko zastupljen... Serversko trziste, na primer, koje je enormno, je mnogo vise opremljeno linux sistemima; Sto se kucnih varijanti tice, zaboravljas na milione mac korisnika (Mac je u americi sto je kod nas gurmanska pljeska...), i potpuno zanemarujes sve veci broj ljudi koji koriste smartphonove kao glavnu masineriju. Windows trzisno drzi poziciju jer jos uvek ima na milione masina sa windowsima 95, 98 i xp po firmama u svetu, a vista i sedmica su tek onako zastupljeni po firmama, mnogo vise su "po kucama" jer ih uvaljuju uz gotove konfe...

Dobro, previse skrenusmo sa glavne teme, da se microsoftu ne isplati taj dil sa suseom, ja sam potpuno siguran da od njega nista ne bi bilo