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Poslao: 15 Avg 2005 20:35
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A submerged island that could be the source of the Atlantis myth was hit by a large earthquake and tsunami 12,000 years ago, a geologist has discovered.
Spartel Island now lies 60m under the sea in the Straits of Gibraltar, but some think it once lay above water.
The finding adds weight to a hypothesis that the island could have inspired the legend recounted by the philosopher Plato more than 2,000 years ago.
Evidence comes from a seafloor survey published in the journal Geology.
Marc-André Gutscher of the University of Western Brittany in Plouzané, France, found a coarse-grained sedimentary deposit that is 50-120cm thick and could have been left behind after a tsunami.
Shaken sediments
Dr Gutscher said that the destruction described by Plato is consistent with a great earthquake and tsunami similar to the one that devastated the city of Lisbon in Portugal in 1755, generating waves with heights of up to 10m.
The thick "turbidite" deposit results from sediments that have been shaken up by underwater geological upheavals.
It was found to date to around 12,000 years ago - roughly the age indicated by Plato for the destruction of Atlantis, Dr Gutscher reports in Geology.
Spartel Island, in the Gulf of Cadiz, was proposed as a candidate for the origin of the Atlantis legend in 2001 by French geologist Jacques Collina-Girard.
It is "in front of the Pillars of Hercules", or the Straits of Gibraltar, as Plato described. The philosopher said the fabled island civilisation had been destroyed in a single day and night, disappearing below the sea.
Sedimentary records reveal that events like the 1755 Lisbon earthquake occur every 1,500 to 2,000 years in the Gulf of Cadiz.
But the mapping of the island carried out by Dr Gutscher failed to turn up any manmade structures and also showed that the island was much smaller than previously believed.
This could make it less likely that the island was inhabited by a civilisation.
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Poslao: 16 Avg 2005 03:56
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mozda bi ovo bolje lezalo u geografiji, mislim da je tema za taj forum, sta vi mislite?
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Poslao: 16 Avg 2005 06:56
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Uf, pa ne znam bas.... Atlantida je legendarno ostrvo tako da je njeno otkrivanje zaista nauka, a geografija spada pod obrazovanje, sto ce reci, ono sto je na ne ki nacin vec opste poznato.
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Poslao: 16 Avg 2005 12:07
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Vladimir_Z ::But the mapping of the island carried out by Dr Gutscher failed to turn up any manmade structures and also showed that the island was much smaller than previously believed.
This could make it less likely that the island was inhabited by a civilisation.
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Poslao: 16 Avg 2005 21:20
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Pa da Zoni,mozda ce bas to oboriti mit o Atlantidi(suvise malo ostrvo),kakva ironija.
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Poslao: 17 Avg 2005 07:41
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pa, ja mislim da taj mit nikada nece biti oboren, pogotovu ne na ovaj nacin! Jednostavno, Atlantida je "postavljana" na toliko mesta, da jedan ovakav pokazatelj nista ne govori...
u stvari, posto se u egipatskim i grckim izvorima (ili "izvorima"???) kaze da je Atlantida bila veliko ostrvo, onda je jasno (da prema toj pretpostavci!) ovo ostrvce (koje u stvari i nije ostrvo, nego samo neki podvodni vrh!), ne moze biti Atlantida...
uostalom, nedavno je "jasno dokazano" da se Atlantida nalazila izmedju Kipra i Sirije, gde su navodno pronadjeni i ostaci grada... hm...
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Poslao: 17 Avg 2005 09:51
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Citat:da se Atlantida nalazila izmedju Kipra i Sirije
Ovo sam i ja cuo... ja mislim da sam video na discovery ali sigurno sam cuo negde.Mada mi nisu delovali ubedljivo... ja licno ne verujem u postojanje atlantide 
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Poslao: 17 Avg 2005 10:02
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Ma na "Discovery"-ju su pricali o Atlantidi nadugacko, sa poznatim njihovim nagadjanjima i preterivanjima, od toga da su prikazali neke gradove po Juznoj Americi (?!), za koje se sumnja da su ista civilizacija, pa do coveka koji je napravio camac od kamena i u njemu preveslao Titikaku... Navodno su civilizacije Juzne Amerike pre stigle do Evrope (jos u doba egipatskog carstva), nego Evropljani tamo...
Jedini pouzdani podaci o Atlantidi i njenom polozaju morali bi se traziti medju delima iz doba anticke Grcke, jer ako je tada pisano o njenom nestanku, sve posle toga su nagadjanja...
Moje misljenje, za sada, je da je Platon o Atlantidi pisao kao o idealnoj drzavi, koju je i sam pokusavao da opise u svojoj "Drzavi", a da ju je unistio kao simbol da idealno ne moze postojati... Dok se ne budu pojavili neki pravi dokazi postojanja Atlantide, ovo je moja postavka...
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