PASSIVE VOICE i First and Second Conditionals (1-3)

PASSIVE VOICE i First and Second Conditionals (1-3)

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Ne znam da li ovo dobro uradjeno? U fazi ucenja gramatike engleskog jezika pa zato sebe cesto kontrolisem, nadam se da mi necete zameriti.
Ako nije ispravno uradjeno, pisite kako treba...
Passive:

1. The film may be baned.
2. Nancy was offered a pay increase.
3. The mistakes needs to be corrected.
4. The situation has been under control.
5. The new drug was tested.
6. The machine had not used for ages.

First and Second Conditionals (1-3):

Emma: My birthday is on Wendnesday. Matthew. You are playing basketball then, are not you? If you cared for me, you would not play basketball on my birthday.
Matthew: What is the difference? If we will go out on Thursday it will be just the same. If I would not play, I"d be letting the team down.
Emma: Yes, I suppose it would be disaster if you missed one game. Well, if you think more of your friends than you do of me, you can forget the whole thing.
Matthew: I just do not understand you sometimes, Emma.
Emma: If you thinking about it, you"d understand. And I think it was better if we forgot all about my birthday.
Matthew: Do not be silly, Emma. If you get into one of your bad moods, it did not any good.
Emma: If you were interested in my feelings, I was not geting into a bad mood.

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1. The film may be baned.
2. Nancy was offered a pay increase./A pay increase was offered to Nancy. može i jedno i drugo, to su pravi i nepravi objekat, koristiš onaj oblik kojim želiš da naglasiš to što si stavio na početak.
3. The mistakes need to be corrected.
4. The situation was reported to be under control.5. The new drug is being tested.
6. The machine has not been used for ages.

First and Second Conditionals (1-3):

Emma: My birthday is on Wendnesday. Matthew. You are playing basketball then, are not you? If you cared for me, you would not play basketball on my birthday.
Matthew: What is the difference? If we go out on Thursday it will be just the same. If I did not play, I"d be letting the team down.
Emma: Yes, I suppose it would be disaster if you missed one game. Well, if you think more of your friends than you do of me, you can forget the whole thing.
Matthew: I just do not understand you sometimes, Emma.
Emma: If you thought about it, you"d understand. And I think it would be better if we forgot all about my birthday.
Matthew: Do not be silly, Emma. If you get into one of your bad moods, it will not do any good.
Emma: If you were interested in my feelings, I would not get into a bad mood.



Greške ispravljene, prouči i obrati pažnju da su uslovne rečenice složene i da ne mora stajati prvo uslov pa posledica, ne radi ih matematički po formuli.
Pasiv ću ti probati pojednostaviti "u sledećem broju"...nastavak sledi..



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Hvala puno!
Kada budete imali vremena ako mozete ukratko mi pojasnite malo pasiv, dosta mi je jasniji posle pregledanih vasih ispravki, a kondicional sam solidno razumeo.
Svako dobro!

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Nema na čemu, i daj da ne persiramo, svi smo ovde drugari...
Davno sam ovo radila pa sam možda malo preopširna, ali već ćeš se snaći... elem, pasiv je vrlo jednostavan kad ga gledaš napisanog na papiru, malčice je teži kad treba da ga istreseš iz rukava u konverzaciji, doduše, mnogo se više i koristi u pisanom, pogotovo poslovnom obliku jezika....
U principu, najlakše je ovako

Pasiv je trpno stanje u kome nije bitno ko je obavio radnju na objektu već je bitna sama radnja koju trpi objekat. Zbog toga objekat mora doći na prvo mesto, a subjekat, tj. vršioca radnje možeš ili izostaviti ili staviti na sam kraj rečenice sa predmetkom by.
He contacted me. I was contacted by him.

E sad, šta je bitno: u pasivnoj konstrukciji mora postojati glagol biti, i to u vremenu u kome je glagol u aktivnoj rečenici. Glagol, tj radnja mora biti u participu prošlom, tj u obliku iz III kolone ako je nepravilan ili sa nastavkom ed ako je pravilan. I prenosiš vreme iz aktivne rečenice, nema slaganja kao kod neupravnog govora.
Prošetaću ti rečenicu po vremenima pa će ti možda biti jasnije:
1.Boys play footbal everywhere. Football is played everywhere/by boys/
ubacio si oblik sadašnjeg vremena glagola biti /am, are, is/
2.Boys are playing foootball. Football is being played.
ubacio si trajni oblik glagola biti da bi preneo trajnost i ostavio knostrukciju trajnog sadašnjeg vremena /am are is glagol +ing/
3.Boys played football.Football was played.
ubacio si oblik prošlog vremena glagola biti /was were/
4.Boys were playing football.Football was being played.
opet zadržavaš pomoćni glagol i konstrukciju i zato dodaješ ing na glagol biti koji si ubacio.
5.Boys have played football. Football has been played.
zadržavaš konstruciju tako što zadržavaš pomoćni glagol have/has ubacuješ oblik been /pp glagola biti/
6.Boys had played football.Football had been played.
Isti slučaj samo što sad zadržavaš oblik had pomoćnog glagola.
7. Boys will play football. Football will be played.
ovde ide infinitivna osnova glagola biti jer tako zadržavaš buduće vreme.

Prosto ali obimno, najvažnije je da znaš osnovu građenja svih glagolskih vremena, a to je koji oblik glagola ide posle kojeg pomoćnog i za koje vreme se upotrebljava... ali nećemo sve odjednom, prvo uvežbaj ovo...
Ps. nisu ovo sva vremena, ima i trajnih perfekata i budućnosti,ali mislim da to možeš izvući i sam, doduše i nisu tako česti...

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Vazi oko persiranja. Nego pre oko 4-5 godina imao sam ruzno iskustvo oko persiranja na nekom nasem forumu, pa sam zbog toga persirao.
Jos jednom, veoma dobro tj. odlicno objasnjeno i dosta sam toga razumeo. Nastavicu sa vezbanjem pa cemo se konsultovati ponovo, naravno ako se ti slazes?

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