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Poslao: 02 Jun 2008 23:29
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Moze li mi neko reci gde mogu da nadjem nesto o temi ,,If I were a president" ili ako ima neko nesto napisano da mi posalje?
Hvala unapred.
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Registruj se da bi učestvovao u diskusiji. Registrovanim korisnicima se NE prikazuju reklame unutar poruka.
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Poslao: 02 Jun 2008 23:31
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If I were president- bez ono "a". Moze i da se pise "If I was president".
Imas i privatnu poruku...
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Poslao: 03 Jun 2008 09:08
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Bankarka, nije tacno, mora da se kaze sa "a".
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Poslao: 03 Jun 2008 14:38
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S obzirom da je kondicional, drugi, a poznavajući naše profesore, mora: "If I were...". A Posle glagola to be, a ispred naziva zanimanja mora da se koristi neodređeni član a/an. Ovde govorimo čisto o gramatici, a ne o govornom jeziku, šta može, a i ne mora...
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Poslao: 03 Jun 2008 14:43
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Ja bas mislim da treba "If I were president"
"If I was president" je vise americki, u Engleskoj bi se tu skoro uvek upotrebio konjunktiv.
Dopuna: 03 Jun 2008 14:43
edit: Pretece me Okac u postovanju, pa rekoh da dopunim: Da, posle glagola to be i zanimanja stoji neodredjeni clan (I am a student), ali postoje izuzeci, kao sto je bas imenica "president", jer je predsednik samo jedan, pa je suvisno naglasavati to neodredjenim clanom. Uopste, nikad nisam naisao ni na jedan clan da je upotrebljen uz imenicu president, osim kad ona vrsi funkciju subjekta (The president of the US). U ostalim slucajevima ona obicno stoji bez ikakvog clana (If I were president, I am stepping down as president, He has become president of the US itd.)
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Poslao: 03 Jun 2008 15:08
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Hvala propali maticar za podrsku.
Rodjena sam u USA i zivim ovde skoro 37 godina, ne ide "a" ovde u USA. Mozda je OK u Engleskoj da se koristi...za to nemam pojma.
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Poslao: 03 Jun 2008 22:55
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Ne, ne, uz imenicu "president" se u ovom slucaju ni u Engleskoj ne koristi neodredjeni clan. Razlika izmedju americkog i britanskog engleskog u ovoj recenici bi bila samo u (ne)upotrebi konjunktiva u kondicionalnoj recenici.
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Poslao: 04 Jun 2008 09:25
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Mora da se stavi "a" zato sto pise samo president, malim slovom, ne zna se predsednik cega.
Da je pisalo: "If were Serbian (American, Liberian, Uzbekistanian...) President", ne bi bilo "a".
U ovom slucaju mora.
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Poslao: 04 Jun 2008 14:32
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Kada se pise nesto kao, "If I was an engineer" ili "If I were congressman" su dve razlicite pojmove. U prvom slucaju ide a/an, u drugom ne ide.
dusanst: jel se ovo radi o "president' za nesto specificno, kao jedna zemlja/USA/SAD ili corporacija neka?
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Poslao: 04 Jun 2008 14:45
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Citat:Subjunctive? If I were/was a rich man...
"The subjunctive mood expresses something that is contrary to fact, that is conditional, hypthetical, or purely imaginative; it can also express a wish, a doubt, or a possibility. The subjunctive mood may change the form of the verb, but the verb be is the only one in English that preserves many such distinctions.
EXAMPLES The senior partner insisted that he (I, you, we, they) be in charge of the project.
If we were to close the sale today, we would meet our monthly quota.
If I were you, I would postpone the trip.
The advantage of the subjunctive mood is that it enables us to express clearly whether or not we consider a condition contrary to fact. If so, we use the subjunctive; if not, we use the indicative.
EXAMPLES If I were president of the firm, I would change several personnel policies.(subjunctive)
Although I am president of the firm, I don't feel that I control every aspect of its policies. (indicative)" (Alred, Gerald, Charles Brusaw, and Walter Oliu. The Business Writer's Handbook 375).
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