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Poslao: 11 Apr 2008 11:06
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Strasno me muci passiv.Da li postoji passiv za present perfect continuous i za past perfect continuous?
Neki kazu da za prvi koristim HAVE BEEN+MAIN VERB+ING?
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Poslao: 11 Apr 2008 11:10
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Ako je present perfect continuous na primer: "I have been reading a book", pasiv toga bi bio "The book has been read (by me)."
Past perfect continuous: "I had been reading a book once"
Pasiv: "The book had been read once"
Ja bar tako to kapiram. Odavno sam ucio engleski, moguce je da gresim.
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Poslao: 11 Apr 2008 11:26
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Pa zasto, sledeci pravila nije ovako:
Ihave being read a book.(by me)
I had being read a book(by me)
Zasto nisu ta dva vremena nigde navedena kod pravila za passive voice?
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Poslao: 11 Apr 2008 11:35
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Ovo sto si naveo/la po meni nije pasiv. Ovo bi se prevelo kao:
"Ja sam (bio) citajuci knjigu" (nije nepravilno, postoji ovakva konstrukcija recenice u srpskom jeziku) i "Ja bejah citajuci knjigu."
Pasiv je konstrukcija u kojoj objekat trpi radnju, zato se i zove "pasiv". Na srpskom bi ovo u pasivu zvucalo "Knjiga je (bila) citana (s moje strane, od strane mene)."
Opet govorim, ne uzdaj se samo u mene, zaista sam davno ucio gramatike oba jezika, sacekajmo jos neciji odgovor.
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Poslao: 12 Apr 2008 14:53
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@cica1
Lepo ti je MoscowBeast još u prvom postu napisao kako i šta, samo bez onog "once".
A ovo što je micoboj napisao ne postoji u engleskom jeziku... ali link može da ti pomogne 
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Poslao: 12 Apr 2008 15:12
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Link kaže da postoji, ali sigurno da niko ne koristi tu konstrukciju.
MoscowBeast ::
Past perfect continuous: "I had been reading a book once"
Pasiv: "The book had been read once"
Ovde je prva rečenica u aktivu, a druga nije continuous.
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Poslao: 12 Apr 2008 22:21
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MoscowBeast ::Ako je present perfect continuous na primer: "I have been reading a book", pasiv toga bi bio "The book has been read (by me)."
Past perfect continuous: "I had been reading a book once"
Pasiv: "The book had been read once"
Ja bar tako to kapiram. Odavno sam ucio engleski, moguce je da gresim.
Grešiš.
Od "I have been reading a book." pasiv je "The book has been being read."
Od "I had been reading a book." pasiv je "The book had been being read."
Ono što si naveo (The book has been read.) je od "I have read a book." i (The book had been read once.) od "I had read a book once."
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been and being ne ide zajedno u istu recenicu jedno pored drugog.
The book is being read. Trenutno citam knjigu.
The book has been read. Knjiga je procitana.
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Poslao: 13 Apr 2008 10:14
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Bankarka_FL ::been and being ne ide zajedno u istu recenicu jedno pored drugog.
The book is being read. Trenutno citam knjigu.
The book has been read. Knjiga je procitana.
Jeste da sam samo profesor(ka) engleskog jezika i da nisam bankar(ka), ali valjda i ja ponešto znam. Svako vreme ima svoj pasivni oblik iako i niije čest u upotrebi.
ACTIVE / PASSIVE
Examples:
Chef Jones had been preparing the restaurant's fantastic dinners for two years before he moved to Paris. Active
The restaurant's fantastic dinners had been being prepared by Chef Jones for two years before he moved to Paris. Passive
NOTE: Passive forms of the Past Perfect Continuous are not common.
englishpage.com/verbpage/pastperfectcontinuous.html
I u srpskom jeziku ne znam kad sam poslednji put čula da neko (u govornom jeziku) koristi pluskvamperfekat, a vreme postoji.
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